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TI: Let me ask next about your father. Do you recall his name and where he was from?

MN: His name was Tomitaro. Tomitaro (...) Moritoki. And when he came over from Japan, he took my mother's name, Kageyama.

TI: So like a yoshi?

MN: Not quite yoshi, but maybe because he was an illegal person. He didn't come over with the proper papers, I understand, so we all took Mother's name, so we're all Kageyamas.

TI: Oh, interesting. So when you say your father came over illegally, do you know how he did that?

MN: Through Mexico, that's all I know. He went to Mexico on, aboard ship someplace, and then he walked across, I understand. That's what someone told me.

TI: Now, was that fairly common in the community?

MN: I think so, yes, quite a few of them. In fact, some very famous people came over the same way.

TI: Oh, interesting. So Moritoki, and then, but he changed his name to Kageyama.

MN: Uh-huh, Kageyama. His name was Moritoki.

TI: Moritoki, okay. And your mother, what was her name?

MN: Machi. Not Machiko, just Machi Kageyama.

TI: And do you know how she came to...

MN: I don't know. I imagine it was legally, and she came over as a young girl, and she met her husband here.

TI: And do you know how they met?

MN: I don't know, maybe through music, I don't know.

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