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MA: So I wanted to go back a little bit. And I know you were born in '39, so you were just a baby when the war broke out and that was all happening. But can you give me a context of, or an outline of what happened to your family after Pearl Harbor?

IK: After Pearl Harbor... well, when Pearl Harbor was attacked, we were in Inglewood, that I know. See, prior to that, my parents were -- I don't know if it was leased property or if they worked for somebody, but we do have photos of me in one of the buggies and stuff. And that's (why) I know that I was born near USC. I think some of the photos identify it as Thirty-seventh Street or something, which is right around USC. So as a baby, that's where we were. And at some point, then my father was able to get leased property by Inglewood, by the airport in Inglewood. And then after Pearl Harbor, it was a couple of months, and then we moved to West L.A. where my uncle's apartment was, and that's why we were sent to Manzanar. And I did mention earlier, during the telephone interview, that the army had come in and taken over our property, they completely took everything down from the greenhouses and the soldiers bunked there. They had... I'm not sure if barbed wire on the ground, but barbed wire on top of camouflage nets with machine guns. And all because of the path to LAX.

MA: I see, because of the proximity to the airport.

IK: Yes, right. And so I guess the fact that they would have machine guns would be for any, maybe, Japanese airplanes coming in or whatever. Because they certainly wouldn't be firing on people in the city of Inglewood. So I think that's the reason for that. So then we were taken to Manzanar in April, April of '42. And until, like I said, about the end of '45.

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