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DG: Let me just -- this is not necessarily just about the hotels, but just to end. We were talking upstairs a little bit about the Issei social community and the political community, the political atmosphere. What -- you guys were all part of like Nikkejinkai and those organizations, right?

ET: Yeah, we were part of the Issei family.

DG: Well, upstairs you were talking because we were going through who was president of the different organizations and things like that, was there a hierarchy in the Japanese community as far as like hotel operators and different greenhouse operators and different things like that?

ET: Some were pretty well educated, weren't they? I mean, they really sparkled and those others that didn't have much education, they kind of held back. That was more -- certain people were very prominent like Hosokawa-san. He was able to deliver a good speech.

DG: Who was that? In the hotel association?

TH: No, no.

DG: In general?

ET: Yeah. You let Mr. Hosokawa get up and talk, like JACL had a meeting at the Bukkyokai right after the war, and we didn't know which way we were going to have to go. There was nothing we could do and the JACL was being blamed. So Mr. Hosokawa more or less stood up for the JACL and he was very effective. That's Bill's father. I was there. I was surprised how well he could talk. So those people who could talk naturally became leaders.

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