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MA: And so you went to high school, then, for about a semester.

GK: One semester, right.

MA: One semester, and were, graduated then.

GK: Yes.

MA: And then went into Hardin Simmons.

GK: Hardin Simmons, correct.

MA: What was the college like? I mean, what sort of classes were you taking and who were the other students?

GK: I remember I took a chemistry course there that I enjoyed a lot. And then I remember the chemistry professor, and he would take us to different meetings of chemical societies, I remember, he drove me and some other students to a meeting of chemistry students, and, of course, we had to take religion courses, too, which was interesting. And we had physical education, and I'm trying to think what else. Well, I majored in business administration, so then there were typing classes, shorthand classes, and, let's see, what else? That's all I can remember.

MA: And your sister also attended the same university?

GK: Yes.

MA: And was it a Christian...

GK: Oh, yes.

MA: Oh, it was a Christian college?

GK: It's a Baptist college, very much so.

MA: And were you able to, so you were able to attend church and services through the college, then?

GK: Right, right. So that was a good atmosphere to go to school, especially at that time. Because I just felt that we were accepted there, and (the) people knew my father, so I didn't feel so strange when we lived in Abilene.

MA: And after you said two and a half years, then, your mother and youngest sister joined you in Abilene.

GK: Right, that's right.

MA: And where did you end up living? You got your own place?

GK: Right. So we had our own apartment, and my mother went to work as a (housekeeper). She didn't just stay home, (said), "Well, I've got to be useful," so then she went to (work for) a family there where she did, she worked really hard there, did all the housework and things like that.

MA: When your mother came and joined you, was there any conversation about where you would go? I mean, you had to finish, you had to finish college, but after that, were you planning on going back to Los Angeles? What was your mother thinking that she would do?

GK: Yes, well, we had an uncle in Chicago, so my mother thought that she would contact them, 'cause her sister was married to this uncle. So she managed to contact them to see if we could move up to Chicago then. So we did, and then we eventually got an apartment in the building that they owned in Chicago.

MA: In Chicago.

GK: (Yes).

MA: And what year did you graduate from...

GK: '46.

MA: 1946, okay, and you majored in business administration.

GK: Right, right.

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