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TI: So you were born in 1933. Let's talk about your siblings, and why don't you go in order in terms of your sisters and then your brothers in terms of kind of the birth order.

JN: My oldest, the oldest in the family was my sister, Tomiko. She's still alive. I'm not sure... she's in her eighties, obviously, pushing ninety maybe. But she's been in, she married a Japanese before the war in Japan. To back up a little bit, she, the family, my father sent half my family to Japan, and the other half, I think, stayed here with the intention that we would then also go to Japan. But the war intervened in 1941, so we weren't able to join them. So they went there, like, 1939, somewhere in that period.

TI: So Tomiko was one of them that went to...

JN: Tomiko and my other, the second was Sumiko, and she was the second oldest, and two brothers, two older brothers, my older brothers William and Henry. William is still alive, Henry has since passed away. So it was my grandparents and my two older sisters and my two brothers, Henry and Bill.

TI: And that was about 1939, you said?

JN: Yeah, somewhere before the war.

TI: So you can barely remember that. You were pretty young when that happened, you were about five or six when you were sent.

JN: Yeah. I was young.

TI: Okay, so the oldest was Tomiko, second was Sumiko, the third oldest was...

JN: Jitsuo.

TI: Okay, so it was a brother?

JN: Yeah.

TI: And then after Jitsuo was?

JN: Colbert.

TI: Colbert, known as Bert.

JN: Bert.

TI: Okay, and then came William and Henry, the next two brothers.

JN: Correct.

TI: And so that's one, two, three, four, five, six children. And then after that was you.

JN: I'm the seventh.

TI: Okay. Any other siblings?

JN: Twelve years later, in Tule Lake, the day the war ended, I think, August of 1945, my youngest sister was born. [Laughs]

TI: Okay, we'll get to that later. That's a good story.

JN: Her name is Joyce, by the way.

TI: Joyce, good. So there are two, four, six, okay, there was eight children.

JN: Yes.

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