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TI: So let's go to that a little bit. So tell me the names of your daughters, sort of in birth order.

JN: Okay, my older daughter, I think she was born in '83. Her name is Lynne, L-Y-N-N-E. What was her Japanese name? I can't remember her Japanese name.

TI: And the second one is?

JN: Is Erin, E-R-I-N, and her middle name is Akemi. That's my kid sister's name, is Akemi. Joyce's name is Akemi.

TI: And your ex-wife's name was, or is...

JN: Nellie, N-E-L-L-I-E.

TI: And so you're now back in Hawaii, so what kind of practice do you establish in Hawaii?

JN: I joined... well, one of the guys I met up with in... well, I met a guy named Herb Ikazaki in Illinois, University of Illinois. He was from Hawaii. He came back to Hawaii to practice, and then when I was in L.A. -- in fact, in L.A. I told him to join us, but he was a CPA attorney. So he went back to, when he came back to Hawaii, he called me and said, "Why don't you come back to Hawaii and practice with us?" He was in practice with a guy named Richard Lowe. And I forgot the name of the other guy, Korean guy, local Korean guy. So there were three of them in practice, so told me to come back. So had to take a pay cut, but I wanted my kids to come back, to grow up in Hawaii. So I came back here and struggled for a while.

TI: And about what year was this?

JN: '69. I came back in 1969.

TI: And so, I'm sorry, so what year was your daughter born?

JN: '83 and...

TI: But that would be later, though, because they were born in Los Angeles, right?

JN: Oh, I'm sorry, they graduated from high school in '83.

TI: Yeah, so more like '65?

JN: Yeah, somewhere around there. '65/'66.

TI: Good, I just want to get these dates right.

JN: Yeah, yeah.

TI: So '69 you come back, your daughters are young girls. Okay, so you're struggling for a little bit...

JN: Oh, yeah. Then I bought a house up in Waialae, something or the other, up in the hills somewhere. It was too high up, so then I ultimately bought a piece of property in New Valley, built my dream house there and the whole family moved up there. They still live there, my younger daughter lives there with her kids and everything, grandkids, my grandkids. But I've since remarried, got divorced, and now I live by myself again. [Laughs]

TI: But talk about some of the work that you did in Hawaii. I mean, we talked earlier, you did, like, real estate, you worked with Japanese...

JN: Yeah. Especially during the bubble. I forgot when the bubble was, but during the bubble, again, I did mostly, I didn't go to court. I wasn't a, what you call litigating attorney. I did mostly real estate transactions. And so when the bubble hit here, the Japanese clients started coming in, and that was a fun time for me, the best time for me, representing Japanese clients. And they went out and were buying things like crazy, we tell 'em, "Don't buy, it's too high," they buy it anyway. But that was, that was an experience, representing Japanese clients.

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