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MA: What is something that you would like, I mean, with this interview, people to know about your family's story or to remember, to take away?

EH: Yeah, it's not too much my family's story, but like we were just talking, people gotta be aware that these things did happen, and don't let it happen again. Like they said there was not even one hint of sabotage or disloyalty or whatever by the entire Japanese community. People gotta know. I'll give you, I want to tell you another story about my dad. I shouldn't say it, but when he was in camp, you see some of his intricate work, he used to send greeting card designs to Hallmark and they would reject everything he sent. Then my mom would say year later they'd find same design on the market. And I don't know if you remember, but quite a few years back, maybe ten years or so, the artists in Monterey were running into the same type of situation with Hallmark, and I said, "These guys, they never change." That they were kind of stealing designs from these freelance artists in Monterey. To me, what it is is Hallmark's so big, you try and go up against them, you're going to lose. They're going to outlast you, out-attorney you, out-everything. 'Cause they have the resources for it, you're going to lose. 'Cause somebody did say, "Oh, you should try to see if you can do something about it now, legally." No sense, you're going to lose. To the day she died, she refused to buy a card from Hallmark. So I said, "Mom, me too. I'm not going to buy." [Laughs]

MA: So is there anything else that you'd like to share about your story, your family?

EH: I don't know. I shared too much, maybe. [Laughs]

MA: No, this was great.

EH: Huh?

MA: This was great.

EH: But maybe some things I shouldn't say. Mom, forgive me. [Laughs]

MA: Well, thank you very much for coming in and doing this interview. We really appreciate it.

EH: Well, thank you for doing what you guys are trying to do.

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