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TI: And so picking back up the story, so Harold came to visit you when you got back to Hawaii?

MO: Uh-huh.

TI: And then he proposed to you and you got married. And then what happened? Where did you guys live after that?

MO: Well, you know, he was a strong Buddhist. So I said, I don't know if you read that story, but I said, "If you go to church with me every Sunday, I'll marry you." [Laughs]

TI: And he was okay with that?

MO: Oh, yes. He's been coming to church. Everybody just laughs about that, you know. That he's one of the strongest, strongest Buddhist tuned Christian, been coming and he's been doing a stewardship chairman, he goes around teaching the students how to, and he teaches Bible class every Sunday. In fact, last, until he died last year. He had a Bible class.

TI: Oh, that's a good story. I didn't know that part. So he converted from Buddhism to...

MO: He was a strong Buddhist. In fact, the Hongwanji wanted to send him to Kyoto to become a Buddhist priest. But his older brother was a principal at one of the schools, said, "Harold, don't go to Japan, you go to the university and get your degree from American school." So that's the way he did, he learned, he went to University of Hawaii and got his degree.

TI: That's good.

MO: And he's very happy about that, he said. [Laughs]

TI: That's a good story. So what kind of work did Harold do after the war?

MO: He was... after the war, what was he doing? He was a salesman. And then, in fact, fabric salesman, and he had artists design prints for Hawaii, Hawaiian prints, he would ask the artists to draw pictures, design fabric designs so that he could sell it to the... you know, in Hawaii, you want Hawaiian prints to make aloha shirts. Like Iolani Sportswear and people like that, he would sell it. "If I had this Hawaiian print with Iolani name on it, would you buy it?" "Oh, sure." So he was selling a lot of fabrics like that. He was a good salesman.

TI: And during this time, what did you do after the war?

MO: I was an art teacher, and I also worked for the Girl Scout headquarters. I was office manager at the Girl Scout headquarters.

TI: And how long did you work with the Girl Scouts?

MO: In fact, I'm still... [laughs].

TI: You're still working?

MO: I don't work in the office, but I was the office manager for the Girl Scout headquarters in Waioli Street. They invited me to be the honorary person the other day. [Laughs] But yes, I'm still a Girl Scout.

TI: And during all this time, you also had children, too.

MO: Yes, my son, Paul, and my daughter Ann. And Ann is a very active Girl Scout in Reno, Nevada.

TI: And where does Paul live?

MO: Paul lives, he lives in Hawaii. In fact, he just moved in with, after Harold died, he just moved in with me.

TI: Okay.

MO: He and his wife, and he brought four cats. [Laughs] So we have meow, meow.

TI: Oh, that's why when I went to your house to pick you up and I brought those chocolates, you didn't want the cats to get the chocolate. [Laughs] That was funny. Okay.

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