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TI: Well, one thing, if you were going to get married, since you were at Maryknoll, you're Catholic, and the Catholic church required people to be Catholic to get married.

BH: So we told him that, have to be Catholic, and so he says, "Well, I don't mind. I studied all about, all the painters were all, more or less Catholics, too, Europe." So he says, "I always admired the Catholics." So he said, "I don't mind taking instruction," so he took instruction daily, faithfully. Even when we went back to Wyoming, he still, there was a priest there that kind of told him all about the church and what's required and all that. So then we came back, well, he decided that he's gonna be Baptized.

TI: And is that when he took the name Paul or was it...

BH: No, he liked the name Paul.

TI: Oh, so even before he...

BH: Before, that he always, "What kind of name do you want?" He said, "Probably Paul."

TI: And do you know why he liked the name Paul?

BH: Because of all the artists. He respected them.

TI: And do you recall which artists? Cezanne?

BH: Cezanne.

TI: Paul Cezanne, okay. Oh, that's interesting. So he was okay with becoming a Catholic because many of the Renaissance painters or the European painters were Catholic. And prior to that, do you know if he practiced a religion?

BH: No.

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