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Title: Tokio Hirotaka - Toshio Ito - Joe Matsuzawa Interview
Narrators: Tokio Hirotaka, Toshio Ito, Joe Matsuzawa
Interviewer: Alice Ito
Location: Bellevue, Washington
Date: May 21, 1998
Densho ID: denshovh-htokio_g-01-0027

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AI: Then, what was the trip like over to Tule Lake? Was that in about July, or... now say the Fourth of July for example. Do you remember where you were on the Fourth of July? Was that Pinedale still?

JM: I think so. I think so. I think, my brother had a chance to leave, they had something going, I think contract labor. And it seemed like he left.

TI: Out of Pinedale?

JM: Pinedale, yeah, he was one of the first ones to leave Pinedale.

TH: You went too, didn't you?

JM: No, that was later.

TI: No, no, that was later.

TH: Oh, later.

AI: And so then, what was the trip like from there over to Tule Lake?

JM: I don't remember much about it. How did we get there? It was by train.

TI: I think we, yeah, I'm sure we went by train, but as I recall, after the first experience, of course, going up to Tule Lake was a much shorter trip, for one thing.

JM: Oh yeah.

TI: And then we were going to a more moderate climate. I mean, what we were more accustomed to.

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