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TI: Okay, so Question 27 was a "no," Question 28 was "yes." And in general, what they were using this questionnaire to do was to, it was the government's attempt to try to determine how loyal Japanese Americans and Japanese were to the United States. And one of the outcomes from this questionnaire was that they formed a, one camp, Tule Lake, as a segregant camp, or segregation camp, where people who the government thought were not loyal or as loyal, they would send to Tule Lake. And then people in Tule Lake who they, the government thought were more loyal to the United States, they would move them to another camp, back to Minidoka. And they started doing this in about September of 1943, so this was kind of early fall. Do you remember any, like, Tule Lake people coming to Minidoka during this time period?

GA: Yeah, a number of them came, but they're scattered all over the forty-four blocks. But in my block, which was Block 5, we did have, I think, three or four of 'em that came and wound up residing in our block.

TI: And sort of conversely, there would have been people at Minidoka who in general would have, those two questions asked, would have actually said "no" and "no" to both of them. And probably, in the questionnaire, maybe had indicated other things that would have shown them as perhaps not as loyal to the United States. And so these families or individuals were moving from Minidoka to Tule Lake, and I think some people have labeled this group, or the people that went there as sort of "no-nos," because generally they went "no-no" to these two questions, and then were sent to Tule Lake. Do you know anyone that left Minidoka under those circumstances?

GA: Well, what had happened was they kept these things under cover, so all I know is one day they were there, and the next day they were all shipped away, and you figured, "Where in the devil did they go?" Then the news drifted in as, oh, they were sent over to Tule Lake because they wanted to, many of 'em wanted to go back to Japan, repatriate, and things like that. And therefore they were all sent out without most of us knowing, especially me and the fellow kids like us, we were busy playing around, and because there's a lot of kids our age. And so our time was spent actively playing sports and things and going to school.

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