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LH: Well, just sort of a final question. What do you, what are your opinions on those who didn't support redress but accepted a payment anyway, and sort of...

FH: Well, I'll tell you this, when the money started to come in, I'd go to various people and tell them, "Why don't you give a little part of that to the legacy fund?" And some of them probably went, "Oh, I'll do that." But they wouldn't do that, even if I went back a second time, they wouldn't do it. One person told me, "Well, I'm gonna keep the principal but when I get the interest I'll donate the interest," he didn't do that. So, and then Frank Nishio, who is a very good friend of mine, when he got his, he said, "I'm not gonna donate anything to the legacy fund, because I don't know what these young guys are gonna do with that money." So instead, he made two one thousand dollar awards to people in the community who had helped Japanese Americans when redress... one was Ray Appleton, the talk show host, who supported us all the way, the other was Tom Kerwin of the Fresno Bee, an editor. And the Fresno Bee was very bad during evacuation time, they just poured it on us, you know, "We want 'em out of here, we don't want 'em back." And I reminded Tom, and he said, "Yes, I'm sorry about that, I don't think the Fresno Bee should have done that." When he got his $1,000, he donated his $1,000, he donated that money to the Hubert Phillips Scholarship, which we as Japanese Americans established. There are two scholarships, the Mary Baker Scholarship and the Hubert Phillips Scholarship. And we established those because they were two of the outstanding non-Japanese who stood by us all during that period. They fought evacuation for us, and they urged us to come back, and when we first came back the sentiment was, "We don't want 'em, (we) don't want the Japs." But they fought that, too. So, when they died, why I and some of the others, we decided we're going to make a scholarship in their memory, and we did, we established two scholarships for them.

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