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TI: Well, and you had children.

HS: We had four children. Our first child was, was a girl, Kim, very bright, and she went to, she was in her, in her upbringing, she was always a very outgoing child, and very good. She became a, as a matter of fact, she became a competitive figure skater, and at one point, she was the, the juvenile champion figure skater in Alberta. But she never went beyond that; she, by about that time, she was already about fifteen when she did that, and boys came into the picture, and that sort of went, being a figure skater sort of went to the side. She wasn't willing to give it as much as she thought she was giving, although she continued to do a lot of skating. She taught figure skating, and she became a teacher. And then she married a dentist and then went to Calgary.

TI: And then after Kim...

HS: There was Darren, our first son. And he became a electrical engineer, and he continued to stay in Edmonton. He stayed with us for a long time, Joan finally had to get him to move out, and he did go out with a friend, I think, and they had their own place. And then eventually, he had a number of relationships, and eventually he and his present wife, Nadine, married, and they have two boys.

TI: Now, is he the triathlon?

HS: No, he's not the triathlon.

TI: Okay, so that's --

HS: Greg is the, Greg was the next one, and Greg is a triathlon. He, he's still single, although he's had a live-in, and he's had a relationship with one girl for at least five or six years now. But he's not, and I know that she has said to us that she'd like to get married, but Greg is so wrapped up in his triathlon and in his other work. He works as the, a manager with what they call the Northland, it's the Northland Foundation, but actually it's called the Northland Exhibition and Division. It's a, it's actually a separate organization from the city, but it got its start from the city as a convention center type setup. It owns a number of facilities, and one is that it, it runs the racehorse area, it's gambling casinos, and it has as a part of its overall thing, it has a huge skating rink, which was called the Coliseum at the time when he joined them. The Coliseum was where the Oiler hockey team that we have in Edmonton, that's where they are. They use that skating rink. That big complex, but it's also a big convention center. It has several big buildings that do all the conventions. So actually, Greg, in a way, is in the entertainment world, his major, major work is to run the horse racing area, as well as, but he does have a hand in the gambling area as well.

TI: Wow, so it sounds like he's busy.

HS: Yeah, he's busy, but this work that he has seems to fit in well with him because he has to take time off to do his triathlon, and he also is a taiko drummer, and, right now, he is one of the principal, a major player as well as organizer for the taiko group. And a lot of it is the fact that he's already in the, you might say, entertainment world, so he has, he has communication with other areas where he can, where he can book the --

TI: And just to finish up with Greg, I mean, you said he's a competitive triathlete.

HS: Oh, he's competitive triathlon, yes. Just recently, he said he'd been put on the Canadian team to go to Lausanne, Switzerland, for a triathlon championship that's going to be held there.

TI: Good. Okay, so that's three, and then the fourth one?

HS: The fourth one is Gina, or Yoshiko as she is now known. She has one child, which is a girl. I forgot to say that Kim has two boys. Kim has two boys, they're, the oldest is seventeen now, and the next one is getting to be fourteen. And the, Gina has a little girl who's now coming on to four years of age. She's, she's in Toronto, Kim is also in Ontario. Kim and her husband are divorced now, and she's now got a new situation and is just going into a new house in, in Ontario. Gina and her husband are in the process, her husband is a, again, he's in computers, he's a programmer. He worked for the Bank of, Royal Bank of Canada, but recently has opted to finish with the Royal Bank because he was always on contract, and they wanted him to become full-time, but he felt that what they were offering him wasn't good enough, so he's now in the process of trying to get a different area. And the other thing, of course, they would like to come West again, and so that's what he's trying to do now, is to arrange something. As a matter of fact, he's even talked to somebody here in Seattle, he said, but he's really hoping that they get into Calgary or Edmonton.

TI: Boy, it sounds like if he could do that, it would be nice for you to be close to your grandchild.

HS: Oh, yeah, or Vancouver, but they're not interested in Vancouver, they're interested in Calgary.

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