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TI: Now, how would you describe your relationship with Mr. Nishikaze? I mean, it sounds like, you at one point called his son your cousin.

HS: Yeah, but it wasn't -- it was really --

TI: But formally you weren't really related.

HS: That's what they told us, we were not related.

TI: Related, but it sounds like the two families were very close.

HS: Oh, so close together, yes.

TI: And did you sort of have an uncle relationship with Mr. Nishikaze?

HS: Mr. Nishikaze we hardly ever saw, because he was cooking all the time. And then he went to bed at seven, or six. He would have supper early, he sometimes would have supper with us, then he would leave.

TI: Well, how about the mother, Mrs. Nishikaze?

HS: Oh, Mrs. Nishikaze was, Mrs. Nishikaze was a few years older than my mother, and she was like the older sister for my mother. So she knew, well, she was, she had been in Canada a lot longer.

TI: So were the two of them pretty close, your mother and...

HS: Yeah, pretty close, yes.

TI: And was it sort of like you were raised by both of them in some ways? I mean, would they both discipline you?

HS: Well, no, no, they still, well, they would, if you were doing something bad or somebody needed to be told that you were doing something bad, but there's no question that each mother looked after their own kids, yeah.

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