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TI: Okay, so you go to Salt Lake City, and then where did you go?

HH: And also because of the wartime, that they had the gasoline, and that we had to have the scrips or something like that, and that was provided before we left Minidoka.

TI: So you knew you had enough of this scrips to get you all the way to, on your trip.

HH: Yes.

TI: Okay, good. So anything else interesting happen during this trip, do you remember?

HH: Well, on the way, we were able to stop in different places, because I think it took us about a good three days, I think, because I know we stopped at Des Moines, I think it is, and we arranged to drop in on Bill Hosokawa just shortly on the way. And then also I know we stopped --

TI: Well, when you stopped to talk to Bill Hosokawa, what was Bill doing at this time?

HH: Well, he was working for the Denver Post, I think it was, yeah.

TI: So he was working for the Denver Post at this time? And did you get a sense of how he was doing at this time? Because the war was still going on...

HH: Yes, well, he was working... I may be getting this mixed up, because that's what I'm saying. I think we were... Denver is one of the places we stopped, but I think maybe Bill was not there at the time. I think it was... what is it, the other newspaper that he was, I think I mentioned it to you before. Anyway, we did stop, and then overnight, we had to stay, and then also Lincoln, Nebraska, is another place that we knew another family that was relocated there, and before we got to Chicago. So we were able to drop in and see some people, but otherwise, it was driving all the way through. But every time we stopped anywhere, we would try to get an extra spare tire, and finally we were able to get a prewar tire which was a little bit oversized. But I said, well, this is better than not having any besides the tires that I had until we got to Chicago.

TI: Now, when you're in Illinois, the Chicago area, you decided to leave your car there and then take a train to Washington, D.C. Now, why did you decide to do that and not drive all the way to D.C.?

HH: Well, I was still worried about the -- not the gas, getting the gas -- but I was still worried about the tires and everything. So I thought maybe it would be better, because my brother-in-law, Kats Takakoshi, he was already married. They were relocated and he had a job working in Rockford, Illinois, which is about ninety miles away, closer to Elgin. Anyway, that I knew, so I decided to go there, at least to visit him, but I decided it would be better to leave the car there.

TI: Okay, that makes sense. So then you took a train to Washington, D.C. from there?

HH: Yes.

TI: And so why don't you talk about that? Did anything interesting happen on the train going to D.C.?

HH: No, it's just that I had to go back to Chicago and then take a train from there, and on to Washington, D.C.

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