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TI: Okay. I'm curious now, so after you graduated from high school, from the United States high school, so you have a high school diploma from both Japan and the United States, at that point did you ever think about where, where did you, where did you feel like you fit in better, in Japan or United States?

GH: That was my problem, yeah.

TI: Yeah, I'm curious because here you had a very... I don't want to say fractured, but a very unusual sort of childhood, living half the time in Japan, half the time in the United States.

GH: I knew I couldn't hack it at the university, although I wanted to continue with my education. And while I was debating, Uncle Sam solved the problem.

TI: By drafting you?

GH: Yeah. [Laughs]

TI: But in terms of just where you felt comfortable, most comfortable, did you feel more comfortable in the United States or in Japan at this point?

GH: At that point, I was more comfortable in Japan, yeah.

TI: And why was that? Why do you think...

GH: Because of the, perhaps because I had enough Japanese background to continue with the higher education.

TI: Now, I'm curious. When, before you left, you mentioned how you did things with Gordon. When you came back (from) Japan, did you, did you ever see Gordon at all? Did you ever talk to Gordon?

GH: Oh yes, uh-huh.

TI: And do you recall what that was like?

GH: Actually, I didn't see Gordon until he came to USC one year.

TI: Oh, so this was after, after the war, that you saw Gordon?

GH: Yeah, yeah.

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