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TI: Okay, so you got married, you then moved to --

MH: So we, so we moved to Cincinnati, helped him...

TI: And you're just, just almost finished with your master's.

MH: I know.

TI: Did you ever go back and finish that?

MH: No.

TI: Do you ever have regrets that you didn't finish?

MH: I do. I regret it very much. For one thing, I would be getting a bigger pension. [Laughs] But anyway, Walt decided after he got his master's, and with my encouragement, to go on for his Ph.D. And we worked hard at that, and so we lived in Cincinnati two years. He finished his doctorate very quickly, and by that time I think I was pregnant, and so I, the two of us bought a cheap car and drove to Seattle to be with Mom and Dad. And I had my first baby here.

TI: Well, when you say with your mom and dad, so...

MH: By that time they had moved up to Thirty-first Avenue.

TI: So your, your mother... I thought she went to a mental institution.

MH: Oh, yeah. She got out.

TI: She got out.

MH: Uh-huh.

TI: And how was she after the war?

MH: Hey, my mother was so improved. Her mind was so sharp, and she became so creative. She wrote haiku that she won awards on from Japan, after her illness. And she did beautiful flower arrangements.

TI: So that must have been a huge relief for you to see your mom like that.

MH: Oh, my God. But you know, to think that the electric shock treatment could scatter the cells, brain cells somehow, and in her case, I guess it just hit the right places, because my mother was a terrific woman by the time she died. In a very short period of time.

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