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TI: Yeah, we're coming to the end of the tape, but before we end, I just wanted to ask a question, to follow up something. When you talked about the religious group that your parents belonged to, and you're talking about perhaps more people that you researched, do you know the name of the group? What they were called, or what they call themselves?

GH: Yeah, they call themselves, in English, it doesn't come strictly out of English, but they referred to themselves as "Friends of Jesus." Thomas, Thomas was a area -- Thomas, between Kent and Auburn. Kyouyuukai. Now you could ask somebody who speaks Japanese what's the translation of kyouyuukai. It's, it's a meeting of some type. It's a group meeting. And then Thomas, Thomas Kyouyuukai. And so since it was related to followers of Jesus, they just sort of used that as a kind of a loose translation. The non-church part had a name, a more general name. This person Uchimura, who was known as the leader of the non-church movement -- they called it non-church movement. It wasn't literally non-church, it was non-denominational. It was non, that way. It wasn't that he opposed everything.

TI: Okay, good. Thank you.

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