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AI: You know, I wanted to ask you, you have mentioned several different visitors that you had at Tule Lake, including the YW people, but you mentioned earlier that the Garrittys, the family that you had worked for, that they came to Tule Lake also. What was that visit like? How, what, did you know they were coming? How did that come about?

EH: I don't think I knew they were coming, but we somehow were notified that we had guests. And it was very emotional, but there was a high fence, and we couldn't, we couldn't really even touch them.

AI: They weren't allowed to come in?

EH: They weren't allowed to come in. We weren't allowed to go sit anywhere. You know, I thought the least they could have done was allow visitors into an empty barrack, and we could sit and talk. And they gave, they brought gifts, and of course, my mother insisted on coming. And she broke out in tears when she saw them. And the Garrittys were very concerned, and, "Why is she crying?" And I had a hard time explaining the gratitude that brings tears like that. But I think there were probably lots of visitors, or certainly church visitors. And as I say, college professors who, who really wanted to study. You know, I ended up going (out) with an anthropology professor, taking a job temporarily with him, but there, but there were, Harold Jacoby, who was the head of ("wardens," the police department in camp) probably had visitors from, from College of the Pacific, which is in Stockton.

AI: Oh, and excuse me, didn't you say earlier also that your old psychology professor from junior college also visited you at Tule Lake?

EH: (Yes), Henry Tyler came all the way up and looked me up, and that's when he had my paper, this "Culture Conflict" paper in his hand, and he said, "Can I, Elaine, can I have this?" And I'd long forgotten about that, and I, I didn't... I knew what I wrote about, but I didn't remember the fine details about it. And, and I said, "Certainly, take it." So he probably used it as a bona fide "culture conflict" in his textbooks, or whatever he used. He was really a fine person, and a popular person. Actually, there were two Henry Tylers at Sacramento JC. The other guy taught what we call "American Institutions." A required history/government semester course, I think. But (yes), eventually -- sometimes it aroused suspicion among our cohorts. When the "no-no" issue came out, it was --

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