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Title: Roy H. Matsumoto Interview
Narrator: Roy H. Matsumoto
Interviewers: Alice Ito (primary), Tom Ikeda (secondary)
Location: Seattle, Washington
Date: December 17 & 18, 2003
Densho ID: denshovh-mroy-01-0089

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TI: Yeah, right before, we're going to get that next, but I just want to say, how long did you date before you got married?

RM: I was so busy so sometime I went to call 'em up and I be, but then something come up in case, so I cannot go, and I have to stay in the couch in the office and stay there and the detective, you'd have a Japanese detective bring in information and things. Sometime I have to go myself so I cannot come. So, she thought I might have a girlfriend somewhere else. But it's not too serious but they invited me for the dinner or something like that, so, "How about if you're not doin' anything, just come over." So then they cook Japanese things and...

TI: How did her family feel about you, that you were an American soldier born in United States? Did they --

AI: Excuse me, but they didn't --

RM: No, she has been in Canada so you know --

AI: But they didn't know you were an American soldier. They thought you were a civilian. Right?

RM: No, when I get married was, I was already... at the time they didn't know it.

AI: When you first --

RM: Just knew, but just invited me and nothing friend or anything, I didn't, you know, approach to her or anything. What happened was, as I told you, this thing was compromise, did I mention that?

TI: Right, uh-huh.

RM: So I was transferred to military police because I was military police before. So instead of becoming a CIC agent, I became a CID agent, to investigate criminal thing.

TI: Right, right.

RM: That's the time --

TI: No, you're right.

RM: Case come up and so emergencies.

TI: I'm sorry, you were undercover as a --

RM: That's why I won't be able to go.

TI: You were undercover civilian.

RM: Now you know Matsumoto say first, when I went there, I'm MP, so I have a uniform there. I don't care they recognize me, uniform, it's okay because I'm not connected with any --

AI: So, so when Kimiko first met you she thought you were civilian Takahashi.

RM: Yes.

AI: But then, after your undercover identity was compromised, then, of course, then you were able to tell her that really --

RM: I went back to Matsumoto, then in the army, you have to use real name because I don't use the MP, nothing to do with alias undercover because... then, after that, well, policeman, then made me agent again. Now went to civilian clothes so they don't want people to know my rank, see.

TI: Okay.

RM: Of course, I'm not ashamed of master sergeant, but not the policeman and so they didn't know the rank. So they thought civilian so, since I had my old clothes, civilian clothes, so I became a agent. Now, see, then I had a pistol there, go visit there, and I didn't tell what I was doin' but pistol fell down. Boy, they were surprised. So I said, "Oh, I do that for my own protection," I said, but embarrassed, the pistol fell down from my... [laughs]

AI: So what did they think? Did they think maybe you were a gangster or something?

RM: Well, I mean, I know they're... I was a GI because I went to MP now.

AI: Oh.

RM: And they saw the uniform and --

AI: They already knew.

RM: -- before. Then I went undercover, then the family get to know by then, so it took a little time before we got married.

TI: Right.

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