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AI: Well, so also before the break, you were saying that your father was realizing that you might not be able to go back to Peru, but he was still hoping --

AS: Uh-huh.

AI: -- that, that you would?

AS: Right, that's the reason we went to Seabrook.

AI: And at that... before you went to Seabrook, do you know if there was... if your father talked to the lawyer? I understand that Wayne Collins, Sr. was the main lawyer who was trying to help some of the Peruvians and some of the Japanese Americans who did not want to be deported to Japan. Do you know anything about whether --

AS: No, I don't know anything about that.

AI: And apparently there were three or four hundred of the Japanese Peruvians who did not want to go to Japan.

AS: Yes, I think there were three hundred and sixty, if, if I'm not mistaken.

AI: And then --

AS: That stayed here.

AI: And so, so, a good number of those, then, went to Seabrook?

AS: Yes, uh-huh.

AI: So can you tell me a little bit about how, at the end of your time in camp, before leaving, what you were doing and how you got ready, or how you found out you were going to be going to Seabrook. We want your last, last weeks, your last days at Crystal City.

AS: I really can't remember that.

AI: And then did you take a train up to New Jersey?

AS: Yeah, we took the train, yeah.

AI: And I think also in an earlier conversation, you had mentioned that... was your mother pregnant at that time?

AS: Uh-huh.

AI: So she was expecting another baby?

AS: Right, because we left in September of '46 and George was born in January '47.

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