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LH: Now, you told me an interesting story about your nephew. As you were getting on the train, and you told me that the nephew was given something by the MPs? What did the MPs give to your nephew?

FH: What was that?

LH: Oh, can you recall the time when you were getting on the train, and, you told me an interesting story about your nephew. There's a photo I've seen of him, and he's waving outside the window.

FH: Oh, waving the flag? Yeah, I think it must have been a newspaperman, or somebody gave him a flag to wave. We didn't bring it with us. We didn't have those things. And we didn't know the picture was taken until we saw it printed. Well, children thought it was kinda exciting riding a train for the first time. But after we start going we had to put the shade down so we couldn't see anything -- on the train.

LH: You pulled the window shades down so it was just dark inside.

FH: To Manzanar.

LH: I see.

FH: We were really careful. I don't know, we were prisoners.

LH: How long was that train ride to Manzanar?

FH: We reached there about noon, next day, April first.

LH: April first, April Fool's Day.

FH: April Fool's Day. We wanted to see that -- that year I think it was that -- Tacoma bridge swayed and fell. We see in the newspaper but we didn't see it. I heard someone saying, he gonna try and to peek out and see the bridge, but the shade was supposed to be down. I don't remember seeing it.

LH: How did you manage to keep your children entertained on this train ride?

FH: Well, they were too young. You could still handle them. I don't know what I did with the diapers. That's always, still wonder how I did it. [Laughs]

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