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SN: I'd like to maybe draw a comparison between Tule Lake and Minidoka, because they are very, very different kinds of camps. Now, my understanding is that the people who went to Minidoka were primarily from the Pacific Northwest, from Seattle...

SH: That's correct.

SN: ...and Portland. So, the population was fairly uniform?

SH: Right.

SN: And, with Tule Lake, my understanding is it was a little bit different, that you had people from --

SH: Much different. Sacramento, especially Sacramento area... I would say half of them were from Sacramento, my guess would be. The rest were from the Northwest.

SN: And do you think that the fact that Minidoka was more cohesive, more uniform in its population, did that have a different atmosphere than Tule Lake?

SH: Yes, I talked to people that had been in different camps, permanent camps, and they say that, listening to their stories, we didn't have that, we didn't go through that in Minidoka. Of course, I didn't stay there the whole --

SN: Go through, what?

SH: Well, they didn't have the problems, camp problems, internal problems. People were... didn't put up a fight or complain as much. People from the Northwest were more peaceful, if I wanna use the term. More cooperative, made the best of it, you probably have, maybe read about it. Your parents may have told you about, in the three camps in Arizona, Poston, camps, there was lot of trouble. Lot of upheaval because, oh, they were, they weren't, they were not satisfied. Some groups were trying to make problems. Manzanar, they had some that was pretty bad. But, no, the people that were in Minidoka were from Seattle mostly, and small outlying communities, and they never had the problem that I heard of in other camps. They had riots in other camps. I don't remember hearing about a riot, riot about food, riot about working conditions, riot about pay and this stuff. Some of it was, you could attribute it to the Caucasian camp administrator, or manager. Tule Lake was -- not Tule Lake but Minidoka was fortunate that it was a local from there that knew how to handle people. We had very little problem.

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