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AI: So Mike's your older brother.

MY: Uh-huh.

TY: Yeah.

AI: He was the first-born, and...

TY: Yeah. And he, he was two years older than I was.

AI: So he was born in 1920?

MY: Uh-huh, yeah, right. And then he was born in 1922. And then we moved to another -- and then that house they bought, they bought that house in Remington Court.

TY: Yeah, I think they did. Oh, I don't know. To be honest, I don't know.

MY: No, I think the first house that they bought was in Beacon Hill.

JY: That's what I was thinking, too.

MY: Yeah.

TY: He did what?

MY: They rented that. The first house that they bought was on Beacon Hill --

TY: Beacon Hill, yeah. Right.

MY: -- and they bought it under Mrs. Hoben's name. Yeah, they -- because the, at that period the Isseis were not allowed to --

TY: Buy property.

MY: -- buy property, uh-huh.

TY: That's right.

MY: And so the house -- my father, in the meantime was already working for the Immigration Service after working as a --

AI: Excuse me.

MY: Yeah, yeah.

AI: I think you had mentioned in our earlier conversation that it was 1921 that he started working at the Immigration --

MY: Service, yeah.

AI: -- Service.

TY: Yeah.

AI: And Mike had just been born the year before.

MY: Born then, yeah.

AI: And in fact, I should clarify that "Mike" wasn't his name when he was born.

TY: No.

MY: It was Seiichi. Seiichi, yeah.

TY: Yeah, it was Seiichi Michael Yasutake, but yeah.

MY: Yes, he, he went as Seiichi.

JY: Actually he wasn't born Michael. It was just Seiichi.

TY: Yeah. Oh, that's right.

JY: And he added the Michael after he was grown.

MY: The Kaoli brothers gave... yeah, he went to live in a monastery in Boston aft-, when he was in college. He was living there when he was --

TY: That was before he went to seminary?

JY: Yeah.

MY: Yeah, he got a, he had a bachelor's degree in --

JY: That was when he was going to college.

MY: -- in Boston after he was kicked out of school.

TY: Well, so when he was going to Boston, he stayed at the, the seminary -- I mean the --

JY: At the monastery.

MY: He was staying at the monastery, the Kaoli brothers.

JY: At least at the beginning.

MY: Yeah.

TY: See, I don't know that segment --

MY: At that time they -- the Kaoli brothers told him that he needs a Christian name, so they gave him the name Michael. And then after that -- I just, I think we just called him Michael after that, and we never...

TY: Yeah. Was that -- during that time I was overseas, so I, that part is kind of a blank for me really.

AI: That's right.

TY: For what happened here.

MY: Uh-huh.

AI: But during all your, through your childhood, he was known as Seiichi?

MY: Seiichi, yes. Seiichi, Seiichi, yeah.

TY: I used to call him Seiich.

MY: Seiich, yeah.

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