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JA: And what other facilities were provided at Pinedale?

MH: Well, they had outhouses, the building for... they had about ten people going to one bathroom, I guess it was or something like that. It's a public, is the way they built for us. And the bathrooms are the same, showers all built for community shower, I guess you call it and community bathrooms is the way they had everything...

JA: So the toilets were non-flushing. These were the regular privies.

MH: No, just in the hole. Don't fall in. [Laughs]

JA: And so they would just put lime or something down there occasionally.

MH: Yeah, that's what they're doing. Yeah, lime. That's what they're doing.

JA: But you did have shower rooms.

MH: Yeah, that we had to have.

JA: Now, was there any privacy during all these times?

MH: No, no, you don't have any privacy. You just go hoping that nobody is watching you while you go take a shower in those stalls, like I would call it.

JA: So like for people, who were going through puberty when they're very body conscious, it must have been very difficult on them.

MH: Yeah, it's very difficult so they go late at night when they think nobody's there, nobody's at the shower or something like that. Even to the bathroom that's what you like to do when nobody's around you go, you try to go.

JA: And was there any recreational activities provided during the time at Pinedale?

MH: At Pinedale? Yeah, there was baseball and things like that for the young people, for the young people, all that was available for them.

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