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TY: [Jpn.] You said earlier that discrimination could not be helped because you were enemy foreigners, but...

MK: [Jpn.] Yeah.

TY: [Jpn.] What did you think of the discrimination against your children? They were American children.

MK: [Eng.] Yeah, but well... I don't know what they think.

TY: [Jpn.] But what did you think? You said it couldn't be helped if your children were discriminated because you were "enemy foreigners."

MK: [Eng.] Uh-huh.

TY: [Jpn.] You said it was shikata ga nai.

MK: [Jpn.] But children don't think so.

TY: [Jpn.] Yeah. Then what did you think about your children being discriminated against that way?

MK: [Jpn.] The children do not think that way.

TY: [Jpn.] Yeah.

MK: [Eng.] Uh-huh.

TY: [Jpn.] That's why Donald...

MK: [Jpn.] Yeah. The adults think that way, but not the children. And the children... the parents don't tell their children that the Caucasians and the Japanese discriminate or their problems.

TY: [Jpn.] Yeah.

MK: [Jpn.] To their children?

TY: [Jpn.] Yeah.

MK: [Jpn.] Yeah. We don't talk about such unpleasant topics.

TY: [Jpn.] Yeah.

MK: [Jpn.] When they are studying hard in the U.S.

TY: [Jpn.] I see.

MK: [Jpn.] That is an unnecessary burden. Uh-huh. What the parents think is very different from what the children think. The children are free Americans. That's the difference.

TY: [Jpn.] Then your children... although it couldn't be helped for you adults...

MK: [Eng.] Yeah.

TY: [Jpn.] The children...

MK: [Eng.] Nothing could be done for us. That's way it goes. Uh-huh.

TY: [Jpn.] But when your children are discriminated...

MK: [Jpn.] No, the children don't do that. Uh-huh. That's why it's nice. Huh?

TY: [Jpn.] Yeah.

MK: [Eng.] That's good. Uh-huh.

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