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TI: Let's go back, and now that you're at Heart Mountain, describe what you found, what you saw in terms of how it was structured, just in terms of, you know, you as a trained sociologist, what did you see in terms of the camp environment?

GH: Well, it was camp life. They were living in barracks. Now, I got to see some of the barrack rooms 'cause visiting families, you could see quarters. The walls separating the, themselves from the next was very thin. And there were several bunks. One of these camp cots, metal, like army cots, about 30 inches wide, and what are they? Five or six inches, it's 5 or 6 feet long. That was the cot. And if the family had six kids, you had eight bunks. And generally that was the arrangement. And then people made do with tables that they garnered from someplace, or with wood they made various kinds of things. They were pretty crafty. In fact, you could do a very interesting study of what people in restrictions, what they could manufacture out of what looked like junk and, and discards and so on. And so that's what made up -- now in Minidoka, seems like people had some things that they were able to get in the way of dressers and few things like that. But Heart Mountain, they'd have to go by train only, and they came from a variety of places including, largely, California. And so I don't think they were able to bring very many things with them in the way of furniture. So it's, it's just make do from circumstances, boxes, cartons.

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