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[Translated from Japanese]

TY: So people recovered financially and also emotionally from the camp experiences. But I hear that those who sided with Japan or those whose children did not enlist in the army or refused to enlist were treated coldly by other people.

YI: Oh, were they?

TY: Yes. Do you remember about the people who sided with Japan or anything like that?

YI: I haven't heard much.

TY: You haven't. Some people said that their relationships suffered as a result.

YI: That might have happened. When there were so many of us. Some people insisted that Japan had won when they knew it had lost.

TY: Yes, but...

YI: They insisted Japan won. They must have realized at the end. They were called "Win Group."

TY: Can you tell me more about that "Win Group"? Do you remember anything?

YI: Huh?

TY: What is "Win Group"?

YI: People who insisted that Japan won were called "Win Group."

TY: Did they insist that even after the war ended?

YI: Yes. Yes. When we all knew that Japan lost, they didn't want to admit it.

TY: They wanted to believe...

YI: Of course nobody wants to believe Japan lost.

TY: Yes.

YI: But the reality was that Japan lost, so what could you do?

TY: So you didn't hear anything in particular about people who suffered because of their positions during the war? Because they didn't enlist or sided with Japan?

YI: Since you were born long after the war, you don't know much about the war. Somebody said in a book that we had to tell our stories.

TY: I agree.

YI: To young people.

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