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JT: So I wanted to just ask you about your children, Paul and Donna. What does Paul do for a living?

MT: He's a patent lawyer.

JT: And is he close to retirement? No, he's in his fifties.

MT: He's fifty-seven or eight now.

JT: Okay, so he has a ways to go. And what about...

MT: He was married to Patty Lee.

JT: On channel...

MT: Channel 2.

JT: Right.

MT: And after Patty's mother died, Patty quit working, and I don't know, they're divorced.

JT: When they were living in Berkeley? Weren't they living in Berkeley?

MT: Well, they were living at Berkeley, but they also bought a house in Mill Valley.

JT: Okay. Is Patty still at... no, you said she quit working.

MT: She quit working after her mother died.

JT: Paul was still a patent lawyer. And where does he work?

MT: Well, he's independent. Well, not actually. He has a couple of partners, he has an office in Mill Valley. And sometimes he teaches at University of San Francisco at the law school.

JT: Good for him. And what about your daughter Donna? What does she do?

MT: She's a nurse, she worked in the ICU for fifteen years. And then she said as she got older, her back was bothering her. So she now works at, I guess it's called post-op.

JT: Post-op?

MT: Yeah. That's what she does.

JT: It's not as strenuous. And then you have grandchildren?

MT: Two granddaughters that are both nurses. One went to Dominican, and the other one went to College of Marin. And College of Marin has this lottery system to get into the nursing school. And so she lucked out and she got in.

JT: You mean because there were so few openings?

MT: Yeah, I think they only take so many students and had a couple hundred applicants. And she was fortunate. Reena, I think, is very frugal. She's not a real spender. So anyway, we were going to, I would have supported her going to college, but she decided that's she's going to go to junior college. I think, you know, the tuition for one semester of going to a private university, and whole two years' tuition of going to nursing school at the College of Marin is the same price.

JT: Yes.

MT: Didn't even cost, even a semester.

JT: Thinking back to what you were talking about the cost, do you remember how much you paid at Cal for tuition?

MT: I think it was fifty or sixty dollars.

JT: A semester?

MT: Yeah.

JT: You can't even buy a book for that anymore.

MT: Right.

JT: A pencil sharpener.

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