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JT: Tell us a little bit about what you remember or what you heard about your grandma, how hard she worked? She must have had to work hard because she had your dad in 1901?

KN: Then she had my uncle.

JT: Uncle Mas?

KN: Uncle Mas. No, no, she had an aunt, I mean a daughter. And I forgot her name. but she died of tuberculosis or something like that when she was twenty-one, twenty-two years old. And Uncle Mas, he was okay, and they all lived in that house on Park Street.

JT: That hotel.

KN: That hotel.

JT: And what was your father's name?

KN: Sam.

JT: Okay, and did he have a Japanese name?

KN: Isamu.

JT: Ah, that's where he got Sam. And his brother's name was...

KN: My uncle's name?

JT: Uh-huh.

KN: Mas.

JT: And Mas was younger than Sam?

KN: Yes. Maybe two years or something like that.

JT: You were only, you were born there, but your dad and brother were raised in that ryokan, in the hotel.

KN: Yes.

JT: Of course, do you know, it's just across the street from where we are today, the Buddhist Temple.

KN: Right. And my grandfather bought that house when, I'm not sure, but it was a few years after he was here in the United States. And I think because my daddy was a citizen then.

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