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GU: The guy who was particularly in favor, I have a story about is, is Dan Inouye. And I don't know how candid I can be, but I'll be candid. Spark was the guy who was in favor. Dan didn't think it could be done, all right? Dan, I don't think especially wanted to be associated with a losing issue, so it was all Spark. Also, Dan is very solicitous of his constituency in Hawaii and less solicitous, I think, of the Japanese Americans on the mainland, except for his 442 buddies, Company E in particular, okay? Mike told me that... this is when we discovered that we were four hundred million dollars short. And I was talking to Mike Masaoka about it, and Mike said, "Look, you got to go in and see Dan because this is an appropriations issue. You gotta go in there alone, though, because Dan is very cagey. And he'll play to the lowest common denominator and you gotta set a high common denominator." So I'm in there, and I go in, and he's got this big office and he works in some sort of a side, in a side room. And his, and most of the space is given over to this thing that looks like a huge living room with a very high ceiling. So, I go in there, I'm supposed to be there at 10:00, I'm there at 10:00, I'm cooling my heels for about twenty minutes. And this is... just let the guy cool his heels. So, I'm sitting there and finally from the side door of this big office, suddenly Inouye emerges, the great samurai, right? So he comes toward me, and I get up, and he sticks out his left hand, and, "Very good to see you, Grant." And we're all smiles, but he's telling me, I'm the samurai and you're the guy here asking for something. And I look at him and he's got a cookie crumb, right here. [Gestures to his cheek] So, so while I'm cooling my heels, he's back there snarfing down a couple of cookies, maybe with a little bit of milk.

BF: [Laughs] The great samurai.

GU: This is the great samurai, all right? And so, we talked for a bit, and he knows that all these other people showed up, eligibles. So we walked out and as we were walking out, he says to me, "Grant, look, when is all this gonna stop?" And I said, "I don't know, I don't know." So that was another one.

CK: That was not the initial... are you talking about the appropriations --

GU: No, no, this was, this was the additional money we had to find.

CK: For the appropriations.

GU: Yeah. Bob actually is a hero on that. He found it. He worked with... I don't think we had to work with, with Inouye on that. Bob went to see Darman and Darman did an accounting trick, and the accounting trick left four hundred million dollars in a cookie jar, on the side, that came to us.

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